The Husband's Side

Marc is married but separated from his wife. He admits to having an affair with his live-in girlfriend, while also cheating on her with another woman. To protect his privacy, his face isn't shown. "It is our fault. I don't want my son to grow up like me," he says. "I've always been like that, and I just don't know how it stops. I don't even know how it starts. I'll get married, I'll tell myself that I'm not going to do it again, and I always end up doing it."

 

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"You've had multiple affairs," Dr. Phil points out. "How do you get these women to do this?"

"You just talk to them," Marc replies. "You're nice to them. That's all there is. You can't blame the wife. You can't. It's not the wife's fault."

"Was your wife treating you well when you were out cheating?"

"All of my ex-wives were," Marc replies. "Sometimes women are looking just for sex. That's all it comes down to. You're nice to them, you strike up a conversation, and they start liking you."

Noting that Marc recently received custody of his 16-year-old son, Dr. Phil tells him that he needs to set an example. "The most powerful role model in a child's life is the same-sex parent. You are the role model. It's not just what you say."

An audience member addresses the mistresses. "As a single woman, I have been divorced, but I'm embarrassed by behavior like this. I think there's a line you don't cross. The moment you find out they're married, don't let them in again," she says. "I still have a lot of respect for marriage. I just think that you guys sound like victims to me."

"There are no victims; there are only volunteers," Deb counters.

"The victims are the children," Brenda says.

"And the wives," the audience member adds.

"And somebody who is lied to, who doesn't know that they're getting involved with somebody who's married, who puts a ring on their finger and takes them out in public," Deb shoots back. "How are you to know?"

"There are flags," the woman says.

"Nobody wants to talk about the man taking responsibility," Sarah says.

"What you just said is not true," Dr. Phil says. "I have said chapter and verse: the man that makes the decision to violate the covenant, and tell lies by omission and commission is responsible. That does not give you a free pass."

"I meant the audience," Sarah says. "I'm not looking for a free pass, and I take responsibility."