Sam was kicked out for kissing a girl when he fell in love at 18. "That was the end. I was living in a camper, going day to day. I didn't know what I was going to be eating for dinner. All this because I kissed somebody," he says.
Carl was just 14 when he left Colorado City in the middle of the night with only the clothes on his back. "I didn't care what happened next, I was just happy I was out," says Carl, who has approximately 30 siblings.
Carl gives some examples of the strict lifestyle he had: "I would get in serious trouble for watching a movie, listening to music, playing video games. If we were even caught looking at girls, let alone talking to them, we would be severely punished." Around 8 years old, he had to start working.
Carl is not welcome near his family. "My family doesn't treat me like a brother anymore. My parents don't want me to associate with my smaller brothers and sisters for fear I will talk them into leaving."
He wants to know what Dr. Phil thinks of his decision to leave his family.
"I was one of the very few that actually saw a little bit of it," says Carl.
Dr. Phil introduces David Bills, manager of the Smiles for Diversity Foundation, who travels to a nearby town to find the boys who've left or been kicked out. "I get to find these
"I did for a while, but then I pretty much got over it. That's all I remembered is the bad experiences so it wasn't a place I'd like to go back to," says Carl.
"Yes," they both reply.
"I've said before that how much we trust other people is really a product of how much we trust ourselves to be able to handle what they do," says Dr. Phil. "I really hope that you'll actually take it slow. And if you get to the point that, 'I'm just not getting close to anybody and I'm getting kind of lonely,' then kind of raise your hand and say so. But I would be as afraid of you being overtrusting as I would of you standing back a little bit because there are a lot of risks in the world in general ... I would tell you to be cautious and be patient because you're just re-emerging and as you get more caught up on the ways of this side of the world, then you'll be able to handle it a little better. But I wouldn't be in a real big hurry about that."
Warren Jeffs was invited to the show. He declined and issued a statement that said, "I will not cast pearls before the swine."
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