"It never goes away, but it does get better, doesn't it?" Dr. Phil asks Kiani and Gypsy.
"It does get better," Kiani says. "I would say probably counseling and talking to friends and loved ones. Socially, it will probably be really hard, because I'm still coping with that part, but I just take it day by day."
Gypsy adds, "It's something that will never go away. It's very hard to deal with, and some days you forget, and some days you don't. But if you keep on pushing on " "
"Family is really important," Dr. Phil says.
The women agree.
Dr. Phil introduces Alysia Sofios, a reporter who risked her job and took in Marcus Wesson's family after the murders. She wrote Where Hope Begins about her experience caring for the children. "The mind control was powerful with these folks, true?" he asks.
"Absolutely," she says.
[AD]"When you first had them, they still spoke of their father as loving, right? And wanted to visit him in prison," Dr. Phil asks.
"They would get ready. They'd be putting perfume on, and laughing and giggling, and I would be in my room crying," she says. "You look at these wonderful, amazing people, and you know what he's done to them, and all they can do still is what he says. From jail, he was still controlling these people. He told them he would be acquitted of these crimes. God spoke to him. God would let him out someday. They were petrified."
Dr. Phil reiterates to the family that they are the victims. "Please forgive yourself," he tells them.