Ted Williams Interview: Ted's past

Digging Deeper into a Dark Past
Dr. Phil sits down with Ted for a heart-to-heart chat in The Dr. Phil House.
"What are you most worried about? What do you think your biggest obstacles are?" Dr. Phil asks Ted.
Ted shares that even though he is an overnight sensation, he still struggles with being homeless. "I'm feeling like once all this hoopla has died down, I want an apartment. I want a place to call my own, a kitchen that I can cook in and a bed I can sleep in and call my own," he replies. He tells Dr. Phil that he is now the official voice of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese and was offered jobs with MSNBC and with the Cleveland Cavaliers, but he wants to take his time fielding offers. "I'm hoping so much that there's one job that I can go back to my family and say, ‘Hey, this is the job I want to take.'"
[AD]"It's all coming at you really fast, at this point," Dr. Phil sympathizes. He plays a video montage for Ted of the media frenzy surrounding him in the past several weeks. "What's your reaction to all that now, as you sit here and look at it?
Choked up, Ted answers, "It's like, why me? Lord, I didn't do anything super deserving of it."

"What do you think I mean when I say I want to help you manage this so it works long-term?" Dr. Phil asks Ted, who says he's been sober for two and 1/2 years.


"Making sure that I stay rooted in the recovery process," Ted answers.


"I know that drug addiction and alcoholism is a complex disease. It's resistant to treatment and it is subject to relapse," Dr. Phil warns. "It will kick your ass, if you let it. You know that. It's destroyed your life."


[AD]Ted agrees. "I've lost custody of my kids. I've lost homes. I've lost everything," he reveals.


Dr. Phil says that he's rooting for Ted to succeed but warns him about the pitfalls of sudden fame. "That 15 minutes is going to come to an end. In two or three months, the cameras are going to go away, the lights are going to go away, all the buzz is going to go away, and you're going to be left with a life to manage," he says. He implores Ted to come clean about his past before any negative elements are dug up and brought to light. "You know your life has been anything but angelic."


"True. I've never tried to hide that aspect," Ted says.

"There are those who will say, 'Why are we aggrandizing this guy? He's a deadbeat dad. He's got nine kids. He abandoned them all. He didn't pay child support. He didn't do anything. He left them all, and so now we're standing up, clapping for him?'" Dr. Phil theorizes. "There will be people " there will be organizations of people " that will bring that criticism to you. What do you say to them? Is it true?"
"It's true, for the most part," Ted admits. "Not where I purposely tried to avoid any type of support and all. I just snowballed into an addiction that just went totally out of control. I lost self-respect, self-esteem."
"How many years have you disappointed these kids?" Dr. Phil asks.
"I left them in 1984," Ted replies.
"Were you drugging and drinking in '84?"
"I was drinking; I wasn't drugging at all," Ted admits. He maintains that has been sober for more than two years.
[AD] "You know that you're going to get back to the microphone, and you know you're going to have some opportunities," Dr. Phil says. "The question is: Why will there be a different outcome this time? The last time you had success, the last time you had a job, the last time you had it going on, you got into drugs and alcohol, and you wound up homeless on the streets."


"I'm going to have a different posse. I'm going to surround myself with different people," Ted vows.

Dr. Phil tells Ted that he read an interview in which Ted said he found God in 2010 and had changed his life around. "But there are people who say as recently as the summer that you were urinating in the grass in front of their business, that they were trying to chase you away and you were cussing at them, that say you were stealing things from cars, and that you were there with your fiancée who was being picked up by other men."

Ted's mouth hangs open in amazement. "That is truly not true," he says. "Fraud, theft, forgery was my m.o. Theft, mainly, because petty theft was the quickest way to get my drugs. If that's surfacing " wow!"


"The manager at National Tire and Battery told cops that you and a woman were refusing to leave the business property, and the police report says they came and talked to you about it, that the cops warned you and your companion that you would be arrested if you returned to the property," Dr. Phil says, reading from his notes.


"True story " now when you said National Tire and Battery. It wasn't me urinating on their property. Taking things, false. Totally false," Ted says.


[AD]Dr. Phil reads that the manager of the tire shop says he's aggravated by Ted's newfound fame and maintains that he saw Ted urinating in front of the business.


"He's totally lying," Ted says. "I would have been charged for indecent exposure. I would think I would be charged. There's no record from the Columbus Police Department that I was stripping down to my undershorts in a rainstorm." Ted says he now sees how easy it is to become a victim of gossip.


"I believe you," Dr. Phil says. He tells Ted it's best to come clean about his past, get it all on the table, so he won't have to deal with it later.

Dr. Phil displays various mugshots of Ted on the large screen television. "You've been arrested a lot, as homeless people often are."




"So, you've been arrested a dozen times, at least?"


"No. Some of them were for probation violations," Ted explains.

"But you're different as you sit here now."


"I want to be different," Ted replies. "I maintained a spirit of hope. I knew one day " I told my kids, I told my ex-wife [Patti], 'I'm going to be something one day.'"


"You had a job during much of that time. Why did you not pay child support?"


"Patti was a very independent mother, and she never made me feel that there was a sense of urgency to help her."


"She was on welfare for a while," Dr. Phil points out. "You didn't help with money for food or clothes for the kids once you left?"

[AD]Ted shakes his head. "Patti never called me or threatened me for child support, never garnished any wages," he explains.
"Was that wrong?"

"Very wrong," Ted says. "There are a lot of things I wish I could do differently."


"This is all going to come out. I want it to come out now where you say, ‘Dr. Phil, that was wrong, and I will do it differently this time.' Six months from now, I want you to look in the mirror and say, ‘I'm proud of the man you've become. I'm proud of how you're handling this second chance.'"

Don't miss Ted's emotional reunion with his family tomorrow!