The Ex Factor: Shannon, Louise and Mike

The Ex Factor: Shannon, Louise and Mike

"Shannon is trying to ruin my relationship with Louise," Mike says of his other ex-girlfriend and the mother of his 5-year-old daughter.


"Louise is my best friend, and I want to protect her from Mike," Shannon says. "For the past three years, my daughter has been living with Mike. When Mike is mad at me, he punishes me by not letting me see my daughter, Ashley."

"We split up just after she was born," Mike explains. "Ashley lives
with me, not with Shannon, because I think Shannon is a very unfit mother."

"Mike will not let me see my daughter, unless I have sex with him," Shannon says.

"I've never made Shannon sleep with me to see her daughter. Shannon is a two-faced, lying bitch," Mike says.

"Louise needs to know that Mike is a dangerous person," Shannon says. "One of our fights got
so violent, I punched him for my own protection. He came back at me and punched me in the face. I picked him up by his hmm-hmm and threw him." She grows teary eyed. "Somebody needs to stop him. I hate him so much. He's like the devil!"

Louise admits, "Every single time we fight, he tells me he's going to change, he loves me, he's sorry, and I believe it. If I go back to Mike, I'm afraid that he will go back to the same old Mike."

Shannon joins the couple on stage. Dr. Phil asks Mike, "Are you using your daughter as a hostage to have sex with her mother?"

"No," he says. "I've never once told her, ever, that she cannot see Ashley unless she comes over and has sex with me."

Shannon says it has happened at least 10 times.


"She's just making that up?" Dr. Phil asks Mike.

"Louise has been there when I've been on the phone with Shannon, arguing with her to come see Ashley," Mike argues. "Or she'll make excuses. Or she'll say she's going to come over, so I'll go home. Louise will know I'm home waiting; she doesn't show up. She doesn't call. She's done it for the last three years, and for the last month to a month and a half, I stopped letting her come around because I don't like seeing my daughter hurt and in tears."

"Let me ask you this: Have you had sex with her just coincidentally before she has visitation?" Dr. Phil asks.

"No," Mike says.

Shannon disagrees, saying that he demands sex, and she gives in because she's scared of him. "I'll take a lie detector test just to prove him wrong," she says.

"What's the truth here as far as you know?" Dr. Phil asks Louise.

"I do believe Shannon, just because things have happened in the past, like, he's made me sleep with him once when I didn't want to," Louise says. "She gets pretty emotional about it so I do believe her, but I mean, I don't know who to believe."

Dr. Phil asks Shannon, "You say that he was abusive with you as well?"

"Very much so," she says. "He used to make me have everything ready for him: the house cleaned, dinner done, and if it wasn't happening, he would get pissed off. He used to punch me, throw me in my room. Yeah, I've defended myself, obviously. I punched him in the ribs, and I picked him up, and I threw him."

Mike explains, "We've had pushing matches, and that's really about it. I actually don't really even remember her punching me " I remember her throwing me " but I don't actually remember her punching me, but it was such a long time ago. We split up four, just about five years ago now."

Dr. Phil questions the trio about time they spent together the previous night.

"I didn't want to," Shannon says. Mike adds that they spent time at Universal Studios.

At Dr. Phil's perplexed look, Louise explains, "I don't feel right keeping Jessy from him. When he calls me and says, ‘I want to see him,' I don't know if it's wrong for me to say, ‘No, you can't see him. No, I don't want you around him.' I don't have full custody. He doesn't have full custody. So basically, I'm not allowed to keep [Jessy] from him. He can take him at any time. So when he calls and says, ‘I'd like to see my son, and you're being a bitch for not letting me,' I feel guilty because I don't want for my son to grow up to resent me because I kept him from his dad. I don't want him to be emotionally damaged or something because he's not around his dad, so I say, ‘OK, yes, obviously, I'm going to let you see your kid.' We went to Universal Studios, let them visit, you know … "

"But the whole, entire time we fought," Shannon adds.

"Not really," Mike says.

"Yeah, we did," she says.