"Shannon is trying to ruin my relationship with Louise," Mike says of his other ex-girlfriend and the mother of his 5-year-old daughter.
"We split up just after she was born," Mike explains. "Ashley lives
"Mike will not let me see my daughter, unless I have sex with him," Shannon says.
"I've never made Shannon sleep with me to see her daughter. Shannon is a two-faced, lying bitch," Mike says.
"Louise needs to know that Mike is a dangerous person," Shannon says. "One of our fights got
Louise admits, "Every single time we fight, he tells me he's going to change, he loves me, he's sorry, and I believe it. If I go back to Mike, I'm afraid that he will go back to the same old Mike."
Shannon joins the couple on stage. Dr. Phil asks Mike, "Are you using your daughter as a hostage to have sex with her mother?"
Shannon says it has happened at least 10 times.
"She's just making that up?" Dr. Phil asks Mike.
"Louise has been there when I've been on the phone with Shannon, arguing with her to come see Ashley," Mike argues. "Or she'll make excuses. Or she'll say she's going to come over, so I'll go home. Louise will know I'm home waiting; she doesn't show up. She doesn't call. She's done it for the last three years, and for the last month to a month and a half, I stopped letting her come around because I don't like seeing my daughter hurt and in tears."
"No," Mike says.
Shannon disagrees, saying that he demands sex, and she gives in because she's scared of him. "I'll take a lie detector test just to prove him wrong," she says.
"I do believe Shannon, just because things have happened in the past, like, he's made me sleep with him once when I didn't want to," Louise says. "She gets pretty emotional about it so I do believe her, but I mean, I don't know who to believe."
Dr. Phil asks Shannon, "You say that he was abusive with you as well?"
"Very much so," she says. "He used to make me have everything ready for him: the house cleaned, dinner done, and if it wasn't happening, he would get pissed off. He used to punch me, throw me in my room. Yeah, I've defended myself, obviously. I punched him in the ribs, and I picked him up, and I threw him."
Mike explains, "We've had pushing matches, and that's really about it. I actually don't really even remember her punching me " I remember her throwing me " but I don't actually remember her punching me, but it was such a long time ago. We split up four, just about five years ago now."
"I didn't want to," Shannon says. Mike adds that they spent time at Universal Studios.
At Dr. Phil's perplexed look, Louise explains, "I don't feel right keeping Jessy from him. When he calls me and says, â€˜I want to see him,' I don't know if it's wrong for me to say, â€˜No, you can't see him. No, I don't want you around him.' I don't have full custody. He doesn't have full custody. So basically, I'm not allowed to keep [Jessy] from him. He can take him at any time. So when he calls and says, â€˜I'd like to see my son, and you're being a bitch for not letting me,' I feel guilty because I don't want for my son to grow up to resent me because I kept him from his dad. I don't want him to be emotionally damaged or something because he's not around his dad, so I say, â€˜OK, yes, obviously, I'm going to let you see your kid.' We went to Universal Studios, let them visit, you know â€¦ "
"But the whole, entire time we fought," Shannon adds.
"Not really," Mike says.
"Yeah, we did," she says.