The Jury is Out

The jury in the O.J. Simpson Las Vegas trial deliberated for 13 hours before reaching a verdict. The former sports star was found guilty on all charges, including armed robbery, and will be sentenced on December 5. He faces 25 years to life in prison. 


Dr. Phil welcomes the jury foreman Paul, and three other members of the jury: Connie, Sheri and David.


"What I want to do is have an intelligent discussion about this deliberative process and what you did, because I know you took it very, very seriously, correct?" Dr. Phil asks.


"Yes, we did," Paul replies.


"How did it go inside the room? Was there a lot of talk, a lot of chatter?" Dr. Phil asks.


"I think it was very interactive. There were 12 jurors in that room. All 12 had put their thoughts into each count for both defendants," Paul says. "We didn't rush into anything. We wanted to make sure everybody understood the count that they were being charged with."


"What was the first thing you voted on?"


"I think robbery," Paul says.

"There are going to be a lot of questions about whether or not this verdict was payback, because people feel he wrongly got acquitted of a double murder 13 years ago. Was this payback theme in the room, or did you guys look at the current evidence and make your decisions based on what happened?" Dr. Phil inquires.


"It wasn't in the room. I don't think it was even with us throughout the whole process, from beginning to end," Connie responds.


"The evidence was so strong, and so overwhelming, it had nothing to do with the other case," Sheri adds.


"Were you surprised that there weren't any African-Americans on the jury?" Dr. Phil asks.


"It didn't surprise me. We had two African-Americans on the alternate jury, and I know originally they were going to do a lottery to choose out of the 18," Paul replies. "The attorneys involved, as we understand it, didn't want that to happen."


"What was the most compelling piece of evidence that you relied on in coming to a guilty verdict?" Dr. Phil asks.


"A lot of it, for me, was the video tapes from the casinos. Every casino in Las Vegas has videos, and they can track you from every step," David answers.


"What did you see on that tape that caused you concern?" Dr. Phil inquires.


"Just mainly, as they were walking in, you saw that their jackets were buttoned up like they were trying to hide something inside their jackets, and coming out, their jackets were opened up," David replies.


Dr. Phil shows footage from a Las Vegas hotel surveillance video. The tape shows the men entering the hotel with their jackets buttoned and leaving the room with their jackets unbuttoned. The prosecution argued that this was evidence that guns were revealed inside the room.


"Was there any other verdict to reach given the instructions that you received from the court?" Dr. Phil asks.


"We weren't given our instructions, of course, until right before we deliberated. With that, became the crime and then the law to help us define if that law was broken," Paul replies.


"We relied a lot on the phone records and stuff. We reviewed those over and over, to see who made calls to whom," David adds.

"What did you hear on that audio from inside the room that had the biggest impact on you?" Dr. Phil asks the jurors.


"For me, it was when O.J. said, 'Don't let anybody leave out of this room,'" David responds. "He basically made that statement over and over. That's a form of kidnapping, keeping somebody in a room."

"Was there anything else that jumped out from the audio?" Dr. Phil probes.


"There was a statement that said he was concerned that the 'piece' was pulled out in the hall before they went into the room, and he was worried that there were video cameras in the hall," Sheri responds.


Dr. Phil addresses the Goldmans. "How do you feel about the jury's decision being called by one friend of O.J.'s 'a public lynching'?" he asks.  


"It's unfortunate," Kim says. "We commend anyone who sits for jury service. It's an incredible opportunity to serve your country, and we're grateful for everyone who does it, including this jury."


Dr. Phil turns back to the jury. "Do you have concerns for your safety and well-being because of delivering this guilty verdict?" he asks.


"Yes," Paul replies. "Mr. Simpson still carries a rather large fan base. No matter how the outcome comes, there was going to be people who disagreed with it. You really can't win with that type of a set up."