"My main thing is I want to get into
"Joel lives in the fast lane by staying up all night and sleeping all day," Esther says. "I definitely believe Joel has a drinking problem."
"Some days I'll have one or two beers, other days eight to 12," Joel
"Joel has had two DUIs," his father, Derrell, says.
"He spent six weeks in jail. It was over Mother's Day," Esther says.
"When Joel fell off the balcony, that was a wake-up call," Derrell says. "I should've kicked him out a long time ago. If I had done that in the very beginning, he would've had more respect for me. I dropped the ball."
"Yes, I do," he says.
Dr. Phil goes over Joel's history, including getting so drunk that he fell off a balcony and almost died, and getting two DUIs. "You were drunk," Dr. Phil says.
"But you did have a suspended license," Dr. Phil points out.
"Yeah, I didn't even know I had a suspended license at that time," Joel says.
"Seems tuned in to me," Dr. Phil says sarcastically.
Dr. Phil addresses Joel's parents. "This is what you call on the path?"
Joel tells Dr. Phil that he has it all under control.
"Weren't you drunk last Saturday?" Dr. Phil asks him.
"Yeah, he's probably not seeing things clearly like yourself," Dr. Phil says with an ironic tone. "You say that the reason you're having this trouble is that â€˜the cops just don't like me.'"
"They don't, no," Joel says. "Of course not. I get stopped all the time. I'll just be walking down the street, and they'll stop me. â€˜You've got to be careful. You have that face. You have that look. Just be careful.' And I'll get in trouble for stuff I didn't even do." Joel continues to explain how he's targeted by the police.
"Maybe it's just a conspiracy to get you," Dr. Phil suggests. He turns to his previous guest, Sean Stewart. "You've been in rehab eight or nine times. Do you believe all this?"
"I think he's a full-blown alcoholic," Sean says.
"Yeah, I do too," Dr. Phil says.
"That's where I dropped the ball. I should've had that loving firmness from the very beginning, and I just caved in," Darrell admits.
"This guy, in my opinion, is an alcoholic," Dr. Phil says. "I think that's a psychological addiction. I think it's a physiological addiction. And he's already almost killed himself. And you say,
"Yeah, I know I'm doing wrong," she says. "As a mother, I want to encourage him, and I don't know what the balance is."
"What balance point are you confused about?" Dr. Phil asks.
"I don't know. I want to protect him, but I know that he's an adult, and I'm hindering him from being responsible and becoming an adult," she says.
He tells Joel, "And I'm not even upset with you about this that much because I think you have so little insight that you don't have a clue where you are."
"I understand where I'm at right now," Joel says.
"Do you have a drinking problem?"
"I did. I honestly do not think I have a drinking problem right now," he says.
"Then you don't know where you are right now," Dr. Phil tells him firmly.
At the end of the show, Dr. Phil offers help for Joel, on the condition that he does the work and his parents stop sabotaging him. They accept.