“Ever since I did the Dr. Phil show, it was pretty hard for me,” Kiani says. “I felt like everybody was watching me. I felt like everybody knew, and I just felt like I wanted to be isolated. Once in a while, I would get anger feelings. I don’t know why. Growing up, I thought our life was normal. That’s what I thought. What I felt about my dad growing up, I felt OK about it. I looked up to him. I trusted in him, and I looked to him as a father. When my dad started giving us loving, I remember I was probably 11. I remember he told us giving us loving was to teach us to be better wives for our husband when we get married and that we could learn how to please our man.” Kiani struggles to hold back her tears. “Yeah, it is hard. I looked up to him as a father, and everything that happened pretty much let me down. I just have mixed thoughts, and questions and it’s kind of confusing. I don’t quite understand. I don’t think I’m able to hate my dad. I think that’s, like, a pretty strong word, but I get angry, and confused and, like, â€˜Why?’ about our lifestyle and everything that happened. But I don’t have hate though.”
Kiani’s mother, Elizabeth, remembers when she learned her daughter was pregnant at 18. “When Kiani came and told me, â€˜Mom, I’m pregnant,’ she had that look, like, â€˜Mom, don’t be mad. Mom, I’m afraid.’ I didn’t ask her how she got pregnant. I just said, â€˜OK, sweetie, I’m going to be here for you. I’ll make sure you go to the doctor appointments.’ I didn’t want to make her feel bad, I guess. I just wanted to take care of her. I thought I was doing the right thing,” she says.
Dr. Phil welcomes Elizabeth and her daughters, Kiani and Gypsy. “Kiani, how have you been since you were on the show?”
“I’ve been OK, but for the first week, it was kind of stressful,” she says. “I just felt very weird at work, and awkward and kind of paranoid, like, thinking everyone is watching me. I just felt very uncomfortable for the first week, but afterward, I felt better, and I got a lot of positive feedback about it. People were saying, â€˜You’re my hero’ and â€˜You’re strong,’ and I never knew it was to that extent. I got a lot of good feedback about it.”
After the show, the family began talking to each other about their experiences and pain for the first time. Because they weren’t allowed to talk to each other, they weren’t sure of what each had been through. Gypsy explains that she finally got to tell Kiani why she ran away five months before the murders. “And she told me about some stuff that I didn’t know happened to her, and so we kind of opened up more and felt a little more comfortable to share our feelings and events that went on,” she says.
“Did you want your mother to ask? At the time, did you think what you were doing was wrong?” Dr. Phil asks Kiani.
“No, I just told my mom that we were going to be surrogate mothers for her, and that we were going to get artificial insemination. All five of us girls told her together,” Kiani says. Wesson told them to use the artificial insemination excuse for why they were pregnant. “I didn’t expect her to ask anymore because I kind of figured that she probably already knew.”
“As you sit here today, do you think what he did was wrong?” Dr. Phil asks.
[AD]”Yeah, I do. I do think it was wrong,” she says. “Because it was incest. But I thought it was OK, because I justified it by I was being a surrogate mom. And the way I was raised, I didn’t know it was actually wrong.”
“Do you feel any guilt about it today?”
“I don’t feel guilty, but I just feel weird about it, or awkward, just about the whole situation,” Kiani says.