If you like celebrities and controversy, then you’re going to love Piers Morgan, the latest guest on Dr. Phil’s podcast, Phil in the Blanks. As an editor, television host and columnist, Morgan has made himself an international success by getting to what’s interesting about people.

Morgan opens up about his career strategy, sets the record straight on the phone hacking scandal, defends his opinions and more. Plus, hear what happened the first time Morgan met Dr. Phil.

This episode drops Tuesday. Listen and watch here.