With 12 Kids And One On The Way, Mom Admits: ‘The Chaos Is Taking Over’

Michelle and Rod have been married for 29 years and have 12 children ranging in age from 28 to 6, with another child on the way.

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“We both always wanted a large family,” says Rod.

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Michelle says they spend between $1,600 – $1,800 in groceries each month, “Which is equivalent to our house payment.”

The couple, who currently has eight of their 12 children still at home, lives in a four-bedroom house, which they both say is cluttered.

“The chaos is taking over,” admits Michelle, who says their super-sized family life is never boring; but everything about running the large household is a big production. “And boy do we need help,” she adds.

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‘There Was Always Someone Begging For My Mom’s Attention,’ Says Man Of Growing Up With 11 Siblings

‘There Was Always Someone Begging For My Mom’s Attention,’ Says Man Of Growing Up With 11 Siblings

Michelle says she and her husband, Rod, started having babies when she was just 18. After 29 years of marriage, they now have a dozen children and one on the way.

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“My mom was pretty much always pregnant or nursing,” says the couple’s second oldest, Iron Rod, 26, of growing up in a large household.

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River, 22, says, “There was always someone begging for my mom’s attention.”

Michelle and Rod’s kids say that their mother spends too much time recording videos for her YouTube channel while their father works three jobs to pay the bills, leaving no time for them.

“I don’t think my parents should have any more children after this one and they should focus on the ones they already have,” says Sunshine in the video above.

Do Michelle and Rod say they’re done having kids? Plus, find out why Michelle says she’s come close to divorcing Rod in the past.


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Oldest Of 13 Siblings Says Her Parents Are Tired, ‘And They Still Have So Much Work Ahead Of Them’

Why A Mom With 12 Kids And A Baby On The Way Says She Is ‘So Done’ With Husband’s Addictions

Married 29 years with 12 kids and another baby on the way, Michelle, 47, says her husband, Rod, “Has had a serious gambling problem, pretty much ever since I’ve known him.”

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She says her husband’s gambling debt is currently around $40,000.

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Rod acknowledges he has struggled with multiple dependency issues, including gambling and alcohol abuse; but says the one causing the biggest problem in his marriage right now is pornography. “I’ve been addicted since high school,” he admits.

“I am so done,” says Michelle, adding, “I don’t think he’s going to change and I can’t live like this.”

“I’m making progress,” says Rod who claims he’s been 22 years without a drink and hasn’t been active in his other addictions for some time.

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Why A 13-Year-Old Says He Needs ‘More One-On-One Time’ With Parents

Oldest Of 13 Siblings Says Her Parents Are Tired,’And They Still Have So Much Work Ahead Of Them’

Michelle and Rod have been married nearly 30 years and have a dozen children, ages 28 to 6 Rod says he works 80 – 100 hours per week just to pay the bills.

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“On his days off he will just come home and crash. He is barely functioning,” says Michelle.

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“My relationship with my dad doesn’t really exist,” says Sunshine, 19, adding, “It kind of felt like he’s more of like a stranger in my home.”

River, 22, says that drugs are what it took for him to get his dad’s attention, and Iron Rod, 26, says he doesn’t feel like his father knows how to connect with them.

“I definitely wasn’t doing it right. I wasn’t there for them,” admits Rod.

Michelle, who is pregnant with the couple’s 13th child, says she’s always busy cleaning, paying the bills and running the household.

Their oldest daughter, Tuesday, 28, says, “They’re so tired, and they still have so much work ahead of them.”

How does Michelle respond when Dr. Phil asks, “Is there a point at which you said, ‘My doing this – my staying pregnant all of the time – is not fair to the children that I have?’”


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Why A Mom With 12 Kids And A Baby On The Way Says She Is ‘So Done’ With Husband’s Addictions

Coach Mike Bayer To Mom Of 12: ‘Sometimes We Need To Surrender To Win’

Michelle and Rod have 12 children, eight of whom still live at home. Baby number 13 is due in a few weeks. Michelle runs the household, pays the bills and homeschools the kids. She says the child she’s carrying will likely be born with Down Syndrome and she doesn’t know how she’s going to keep up.

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“Sometimes we need to surrender to win,” says life coach and author Mike Bayer (Coach Mike), who advises Michelle to send her children to a school outside the home; but she objects. That’s when two of the couple’s older children speak up.

WATCH Mom Of 12 Shares Likelihood That Baby #13 Will Be Born With Down Syndrome

“Homeschool failed with me,” says 19-year-old Sunshine, adding, “I learned to read, but I’m not good at anything else.”

River, 22, says he didn’t learn how to read until he was 12, and once he got to high school, “I had to go back and learn all these steps that I should have known.”

Will Michelle agree to put her younger children in school?

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Mike Bayer is a life development coach and member of the Dr. Phil Advisory Board. His upcoming book, “Best Self: Be You, Only Better,” goes on sale January 8, 2019, wherever books are sold. Read an excerpt here, then check here to find out how you can pre-order.

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Woman Explains Childhood Events She Believes May Have Led Her To Hoard Cats

Pamela admits she’s a cat collector. She and her husband currently have 15 cats living in their home, and she says she’s worried her cat obsession may cause the end of her fourth marriage. Pamela says it’s hard for her to leave the house for long periods of time because she fears something may happen to one of her felines. She says when she’s out, she’s constantly checking cameras in the home to see her animals, and she always feels the need to hurry back home to them.

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Why does Pamela say she believes she may have developed her obsession with cats? In the video above, she describes a few incidents during her childhood that may be contributing to her behavior.

WATCH: A Day In The Life Of A Woman With 15 Cats

Is there a way for Pamela to have a healthy relationship with animals? See what Dr. Phil says on Wednesday’s episode. Check here to see where you can watch.

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Why A Woman May Be Overly Attached To Her Cats

Woman Says Friend Puts Her Cats Above Everything Else In Life

Janine says she’s concerned her best friend, Pamela, may have a nervous breakdown and lose her husband if she doesn’t ease up on her obsession with her cats.

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“Pamela has an addiction. Pamela’s a big mess,” Janine claims. “Pam and Mitch are very miserable.”

Janine says that all Pamela and Mitch do is clean “to the point where it makes you feel uncomfortable,” and that for Pamela, everything is second to her cats.

WATCH: ‘I Want To Be Called A Cat Collector,’ Says Woman With 15 Cats

“I get really upset with Pamela, and I want to say a lot of things, but I don’t want to hurt her feelings,” Janine says. “They have no freedom to enjoy each other and go out because it all revolves about getting home to the cats.”

In the video above, Janine reveals what it’s like when she spends time alone with Pamela. And, she shares the rules she has to follow in her best friend’s house.

What may be causing Pamela’s behavior? And, is there hope for changing it? See what Dr. Phil says on Wednesday’s episode. Check here to see where you can watch.

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Woman Explains Childhood Events She Believes May Have Led Her To Hoard Cats

‘You’re Paralyzed By Anxiety, And You’re Hiding Behind These Cats,’ Dr. Phil Says To Woman With 15 Felines

Pamela calls her 15 cats her “babies” and admits that she’s obsessed with them. She says she spends hours a day feeding them and checking to make sure they’re OK, and that she rarely leaves her house because she’s afraid something may happen to one of them. She says this causes problems with her marriage to her husband, Mitch, and that she’s ready to end her obsession.

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On Wednesday’s episode of Dr. Phil, Dr. Phil explains to Pamela how her behavior has become “abnormal” because it is interfering with daily functioning and disrupting her life. When Pamela reveals that as a child, she would grow attached to animals who were then suddenly removed from her home, Dr. Phil explains how that type of experience may have caused her anxiety which is contributing to her behavior today.

“You’re paralyzed by anxiety, and you’re hiding behind these cats to keep from dealing with it,” Dr. Phi says to her.

WATCH: Why A Woman May Be Overly Attached To Her Cats

In the video above, Dr. Phil explores how Pamela’s admitted low self-esteem is also playing a role in her cat obsession.

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A Day In The Life Of A Woman With 15 Cats

Pfizer’s Chief Medical Officer Answers Common Health Questions About The Importance Of Vaccinations And Diabetes Education


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Why A Woman May Be Overly Attached To Her Cats

Pamela says she’s obsessed with her 15 cats and can barely leave their side. She says she’s terrified something bad may happen to them and so she can only be out of the house for short periods of time, or she is constantly watching cameras she installed to see how her felines are doing. She even admits her preoccupation with her cats may lead to the end of her fourth marriage.

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Is Pamela’s behavior normal? Dr. Phil reviews what he considers to be normal and abnormal behavior in the video above. And, he explains why Pamela, who says as a child she was often separated from animals she grew to love, may have a hoarding disorder.

WATCH: Woman Explains Childhood Events She Believes May Have Led Her To Hoard Cats

“There are commonalities among people who do what you’re doing, and a trauma in childhood is almost always there, so it becomes very anxiety producing to think about being separated from an animal,” Dr. Phil tells her. “At a time when you didn’t have the ability to fight back, at a time when you didn’t have the ability to have a voice and assert yourself and say, ‘No, you’re not going to take this love object away from me, this animal that I’ve bonded with away from me.’ You were helpless. And now, you’re not helpless to do it, so you keep replicating hanging on to these animals. It’s like, ‘This is my revenge.’”

Hear more from Dr. Phil in the video above. Is Pamela ready to face her underlying issues? See what happens on Wednesday’s episode. Check here to see where you can watch.

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‘You’re Paralyzed By Anxiety, And You’re Hiding Behind These Cats,’ Dr. Phil Says To Woman With 15 Felines

A Day In The Life Of A Woman With 15 Cats

Pamela admits that she’s obsessed with her 15 cats and can barely leave the house because she’s so concerned about their well-being. Pamela’s husband, Mitch, says her feline fixation is destroying their marriage.

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In the video above, see what a typical day is like for Pamela and Mitch caring for the cats. Why does Pamela say she gets up multiple times during the night? And, what does Mitch admit about his behavior?

WATCH: Woman Explains Childhood Events She Believes May Have Led Her To Hoard Cats

Is there a way for Pamela to have a healthy relationship with animals? See what Dr. Phil says may be driving her behavior on Wednesday’s episode. Check here to see where you can watch.

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Woman Says Friend Puts Her Cats Above Everything Else In Life

‘I Want To Be Called A Cat Collector,’ Says Woman With 15 Cats

“I have 15 cats. I call myself a cat hoarder, but I want to be called a cat collector now,” says Pamela. “My cats are in my bedroom, on my bed, on their cat trees. They sleep on the back of my couch, in the bathtub.”

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Pamela admits that her cat obsession is overtaking her life and says she worries it might cause the end of her fourth marriage.

“Mitch gets annoyed with me when I pay too much attention to the cats,” says Pamela about her husband. “Mitch and I try to go out every weekend if the cats aren’t sick, but I constantly check in on them with the cameras. I’ll stay an hour or two and then want to come home, and Mitch is not really happy with that.”

WATCH: Woman Says Friend Puts Her Cats Above Everything Else In Life

“Pam’s life does revolve around being at home with the cats,” Mitch says. “She has an unhealthy attachment to the cats.”

Pamela says her greatest fear is to lose Mitch and her cats, and she wants help. “I don’t want to be obsessed with these cats. In my mind, they’re my babies, and I can’t move past that. That’s my life,” she says.

In the video above, hear some of the statements Pamela has made about her cats, including that she would rather have breast cancer again than lose a cat. And, hear Dr. Phil’s reaction.

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A Day In The Life Of A Woman With 15 Cats

What Kind Of Life Coach Are You To Yourself?

Is your inner life coach someone who is cruel and beats you up when you get off track? Or, is your inner life coach kind and encouraging?”

“We all have a constant conversation going on in our heads, and by acknowledging that and really listening to whatwe say to ourselves, we can begin to re-script that conversation,” says life coach Mike Bayer in his new book Best Self.

In Best Self: Be You, Only Better, Bayer, Founder and CEO of CAST Centers and Dr. Phil Advisory Board member, gives you action-oriented steps for how to become your best self and truly live the life you want.

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UnPHILtered: ‘When You Go Through Trauma It Changes You Mentally, Emotionally And Neurologically’

Nancy and Lance are concerned for their daughter, Paige, who they claim hasn’t been the same since losing her baby after just 20 weeks of pregnancy. They say that Paige left her nearly 2-year-old daughter in their care to live in a car with her girlfriend after they refused to let the other woman move into their home.

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Paige admits she hasn’t really talked about the loss of her child. She’s moved back home while her girlfriend is in a treatment facility, but says she’ll go back to living in the car just to prove to her parents how much she loves her girlfriend.

WATCH: Dr. Phil To Guest: ‘You’re Undervaluing Yourself’

Dr. Phil tells Paige her priorities are upside down, then refers her to Onsite which specializes in trauma, family systems, and emotional growth.

“When you go through trauma it changes you mentally, emotionally and neurologically,” he tells the studio audience, in the video above.

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Why Parents Say They Put A Tracking Device On Their 23-Year-Old Daughter’s Car

Parents Say Their Daughter Hasn’t Been The Same Since Losing Her Baby

Nancy and Lance say that their daughter, Paige, just hasn’t been the same since she lost her second child unexpectedly in 2017 only 20 weeks into her pregnancy. The couple says Paige has gone from being a great mom to her nearly 2-year-old little girl to abandoning her child to live in a car with her girlfriend.

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“I believe the things that we’re seeing are just coping mechanisms for the pain that she just really hasn’t addressed yet,” says Lance.

WATCH: Woman Says Her Sister Choosing To Live In A Car Is ‘Selfish’ And Absurd’

“I haven’t talked much about it,” says Paige.

“Sometimes those kinds of experiences can cause people to go through life in kind of a protective sort of way where they just withdraw their feelings and not let themselves be vulnerable or exposed a whole lot because it’s just safer,” says Dr. Phil.

When he asks Paige if she’s ever really grieved the loss of her baby, how does she respond?

Plus, Lance and Nancy say they’re convinced Paige has been using and selling drugs, which she vehemently denies. Watch the video above to find out the results of her drug test.

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Dr. Phil To Guest: ‘You’re Undervaluing Yourself’

Woman Says She’d Move Back Into Her Car, ‘If It Meant Keeping My Girlfriend From Being Homeless’

Paige says that when she and her girlfriend got kicked out of their apartment, her mother, Nancy, and stepfather, Lance, refused to allow the woman to move into their home with her. That’s when Paige says she left her then 18-month-old daughter with them and started living in a car with her girlfriend.

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“Having to leave my daughter at my mom’s was completely miserable,” she says, adding, “My mom wasn’t really giving me a choice. She took her from me.”

WATCH: ‘We’re Ready To File For Protective Custody Of Our Grandchild’

Nancy says she told her daughter, “You can have her back when you get your act together.”

With her girlfriend currently in a treatment center, Paige is again living with her parents, but says even though she’d be leaving her daughter behind again, she would move back into her car, “if it meant keeping my girlfriend from being homeless.”

How does Paige respond when Dr. Phil says, “That seems to be an upside-down priority”?

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Woman Says Her Sister Choosing To Live In A Car Is ‘Selfish’ And Absurd’

Woman Says Her Sister Choosing To Live In A Car Is ‘Selfish’ And Absurd’

Paige’s sister, Hayley, says she knows what a great mom Paige can be to her nearly 2-year-old daughter, but says it was selfish for her to let their parents, Lance and Nancy, raise her child while she was living in a car with her girlfriend.

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Paige, 23, has moved back in with Lance and Nancy while her girlfriend is in a treatment facility, but claims they never gave the woman a chance. She says she’ll go back to living in the car to keep her girlfriend from being homeless.

WATCH: Woman Says She’d Move Back Into Her Car, ‘If It Meant Keeping My Girlfriend From Being Homeless’

“Paige choosing to live in a car is absurd,” says Hayley, adding, “It’s selfish to choose a car over living in a home that’s safe, where her daughter is.”

Hayley says she doesn’t recognize her sister anymore and claims that Paige lies about where she goes, what she does, and how she spends her money. What does she say Paige told her that their parents don’t know?

Plus, what was the traumatic event in Paige’s recent past that her family says has had a negative impact on her life.

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Parents Say Their Daughter Hasn’t Been The Same Since Losing Her Baby

Dr. Phil To Guest: ‘You’re Undervaluing Yourself’

Paige, 23, says that after she and her girlfriend got kicked out of their apartment, she left her then 18-month-old daughter with her parents, Lance and Nancy. She says they then started living in a car because her parents refused to allow the woman to move into their home.

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Nancy claims Paige has always had dysfunctional relationships but says her daughter just hasn’t been the same since losing her second child in 2017 only 20 weeks into her pregnancy.

WATCH: Parents Say Their Daughter Hasn’t Been The Same Since Losing Her Baby

Paige, who admits she hasn’t really grieved the loss of her baby, has moved back in with her parents while her girlfriend is in a treatment facility. She says she’s willing to live in the car again just to prove to Lance and Nancy how much she loves her girlfriend.

“That tells me you’re undervaluing yourself,” says Dr. Phil.

Telling Paige her priorities are upside down, he continues, “The formative years with your daughter, are now.”

When Dr. Phil refers Paige to Onsite which specializes in trauma, family systems, and emotional growth, does she agree to go?

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Why Parents Say They Put A Tracking Device On Their 23-Year-Old Daughter’s Car

Nancy and Lance claim their 23-year-old daughter, Paige, went from being an attentive mother to abandoning her little girl and living with her girlfriend in a car that they own. Nancy says that they put a tracking device on the vehicle, so they could know where she was at all times.

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“The tracking device confirmed for me that Paige is doing drugs and selling drugs,” claims Nancy. Paige admits to smoking marijuana occasionally, but adamantly denies doing or selling other drugs.

WATCH: Woman Says She’d Move Back Into Her Car, ‘If It Meant Keeping My Girlfriend From Being Homeless’

Lance says they don’t want Paige to know they’re tracking her, fearing that as soon as she finds out, “she’ll flee for good.”

What do Lance and Nancy say when Dr. Phil asks them why they haven’t taken the car away?

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‘We’re Ready To File For Protective Custody Of Our Grandchild’

‘We’re Ready To File For Protective Custody Of Our Grandchild’

Paige’s Mother, Nancy, and her husband, Lance, say that when their daughter, Paige, left her then 18-month-old daughter with them and started living with her girlfriend in a vehicle that they own, they put a tracking device on it so they could monitor her whereabouts. The couple says they’re convinced she’s been using the car to deal drugs, which Paige denies.

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Nancy says Paige has told them since they won’t allow her girlfriend to move into their house with her, she’ll leave her daughter with them again to resume living with the woman in the car.

WATCH: Why Parents Say They Put A Tracking Device On Their 23-Year-Old Daughter’s Car

“What are you prepared to do if that’s her position?” Dr. Phil asks them in the video above.

“This ends now,” responds Lance, who says they’ll take the car away. “And we’re ready to file now for protective custody of our grandchild,” he adds.

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Woman Says She’d Move Back Into Her Car, ‘If It Meant Keeping My Girlfriend From Being Homeless’