Maggots, Mold and Rotten Milk: A Mother Accused: Connie, Mark, Jennifer 2

Clean and Sober?

In a previous interview, Jennifer says, "I stopped using drugs. I checked myself into rehab. I was nine months pregnant and using with my son, and I realized that I had had enough. I basically just stayed clean after that. I went to NA meetings every day and went to counseling and stuff," she says. She lowers her voice as if in a conspirator whisper. "But the only thing is now, I used last month. I used ecstasy. That was the drug that I fell on. It got put in my hand, and I shoved it in my mouth, and then it was like, what did I just do?"

Back onstage, Connie looks like she's going to be ill.

"So, you're using drugs again," Dr. Phil says.

"I did, yes," Jennifer says.

"Ten times in the last month?"


Dr. Phil points out that if she's done drugs 10 times in a month, she's on drugs again.

"Yes," she says. "Although I'm picking myself back up and starting back over. I want my two years back."

Connie struggles not to cry, unable to look at her daughter.

[AD]"I'm shocked," Mark says, "but at the same time, I told Connie this is what was going to happen. And I love Jennifer. I love Jennifer more than anything, and I want so much for this girl to be able to get right." He says she's not intending to be a neglectful mother; she just doesn't get it.

When asked for her reaction, Connie says, "I am so angry, I can't see straight! We have gone through all of our funds. I've given up the second half of my life up to raise her children! I'm angry. I have no money left. I'm getting older. We haven't even gone on a date in years because we're too busy taking care of Jennifer and her children, our grandchildren. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it! Oh, I'm sick of it."

"Why did you start using drugs again?" Dr. Phil asks Jennifer.

"I gave up," she says. "I don't know. I did my 21 months, or 22 months, whatever it was, and on top of that, then I lost my medication for two months, I used, and I got my medication back, and I'm picking myself back up, and I'm moving on. I can't do anything about it."

A fight erupts between mother and daughter.

Dr. Phil tells Connie that her mother said that Jennifer is not the only one who needs help; that Connie has a history with drugs and alcohol abuse as well.

"Please. Test me. I'll take a test," Connie says.

[AD]Jennifer scoffs at her mother.

"She says that she's afraid that you drink and drive," Dr. Phil tells Connie.

"No. I don't even get to go anywhere. I'm too busy with your children!" she throws out to her daughter.

"Little miss ‘I can't even go to church without drinking a gin and tonic' before you go!" Jennifer hurls back.

While the two argue, Mark assures Dr. Phil that Connie does not drink before church.

Dr. Phil turns his attention back to Jennifer, who admits she is concerned about her relapse, or she wouldn't have come for help.

"Are you neglecting your children?" Dr. Phil asks.

"Purposefully, no," she says.

"I don't care about the intent. Right now, I'm concerned about the children," he says. Dr. Phil goes over the definitions of neglect, according to Jennifer's state's Department of Social Services.

And, does Jennifer sell her food stamps for cash?

"Do you have a prostitute babysitting your children?" Dr. Phil asks her.

"No, I do not," Jennifer says.

Dr. Phil shows a video of Jennifer's apartment, which is quite messy. "I have to say, this does not look clean. It does not look hygienic. This is not just being messy; this seems to me to be an astoundingly neglectful living environment that you have two children living in. You walk into those rooms " you see that every day, right?"


"At what point do you say, ‘This is no environment for my children to be in; I need to clean this up'? That is not just messy; that is unclean. Correct?"

"That is a buttload of clothes," she acquiesces.

[AD]Dr. Phil points out the footage of the bathtub.

"The bathtub is disgusting, yes. The drain won't drain," Jennifer says. "Yes, my apartment in ridiculous. I will not defend that."

"Well, why don't you do something about it?" he asks.

"I need to," she says, laughing.

"Do you want to have more children?"

"I would like to get married one day and have another child, yes," she says.

"Connie says she has seen your daughter playing with her dolls in a sexually provocative way, putting them into sexual positions, as they would be if they were having intercourse or having oral sex. And that she has seen her touching herself in a sexual way," Dr. Phil says.

Jennifer says Connie never told her about it, but Connie calls her a liar.

Dr. Phil tells her, "I will tell you from a professional standpoint, if that report is true and accurate, then that would be a warning sign that perhaps something inappropriate has happened with your daughter."

"Correct," she says.

"That would be of concern to me. Is that a concern to you?"

"If that did happen, yes," she says.

[AD]Dr. Phil says it doesn't mean something has happened, because there are a lot of influences on children, but says, "If I was a parent, I would want to know the source of the content that was in my daughter's mind. You want to check that out." He recommends she seek a professional to determine if something has taken place.

"Right," she says. 

Due to confidentiality, the Department of Social Services said they couldn't comment on this story.