"My husband, Bruce, has no respect and no regard for pageants," says Angela. "My husband is like, â€˜What is wrong with you?'"
"In my opinion, pageants are a waste of her time," Bruce says. "I think there may be some obsession involved here."
Recently, Angela and Bruce were on their way to a pageant where she was giving up her crown, and she began experiencing pains. "Chest pains so severe that I thought I was having a heart attack," Angela reveals. "My husband wanted to rush me to the E.R., and I refused to go because of my obligation to the pageant ... I had worked so hard as Mrs. Florida Galaxy, I wanted my moment."
After the pageant, a doctor examined Angela and sent her straight to the hospital. "When I walked in her room, she had the laptop going and the cell phone going " all pageant related. I just felt annoyed," Bruce shares.
Angela says she competes to promote her charity. "When I see kids out in the communities with all these different ailments, and I know that I'm helping those kids have a life-altering experience, that means the world to me," she says, fighting back
"You don't need to chase a crown to do that," Bruce points out.
Angela explains that when she makes a phone call and mentions her title, people don't hang up on her. "There's power in the sash. There's power in the crown," she says. "My husband and our friends, they don't understand. They think that I'm some high-maintenance prima donna." She promised her husband that if she won the state title, she would retire from pageantry. "The words came out, but the meaning wasn't there, and I would really love to have back-to-back state titles," Angela reveals. "My husband's not going to be happy to hear that I have my sight set on another pageant, and possibly another, and another."
"I get the charity aspect of this," Dr. Phil says to Angela, "but your behavior
"That is correct," Angela agrees.
Dr. Phil asks her about an incident after a pageant where another contestant was waiting for her in the parking lot.
Angela explains that the confrontation occurred after she won her state crown. "She was a beautiful woman. She claims she was a former model from Milan, and actually, through the whole pageant weekend, I thought she was going to be the winner," she says. "As we were leaving the hotel, she was very upset. She was very verbal. As we came out, she kind of looked like one of those game show girls going, â€˜Well, wouldn't you like to be going home in this?' and she flashes over to her V12 Mercedes, showing off, and being cocky as I could be, I said, â€˜No, not really. I'm going home in my BMW, and I have a crown!'"
"You wouldn't go to the hospital because you had to turn your crown over?" Dr. Phil asks.
"I have a very strong sense of obligation," she says. "I felt obligated to be there to give up my crown."
"What I'm getting from you so far are a lot of pageant answers," Dr. Phil says.
"That's because we're trained," Angela says with a laugh.
"That's very disturbing," Dr. Phil quips. "I don't think you're being completely honest with yourself or me." He adds that he doesn't believe she's just doing this for charity. "You and I both know that you have bought into this at an ego level. You're competitive, and I'm not saying that's necessarily bad, as long as you know it and you acknowledge it."
"We have an agreement that we make no purchases over $500 without discussing them first," Angela says. "I have broken that agreement. I needed a custom-made gown. I ended up with $5,500 in a gown that I've worn once and hate. It's hideous. My husband does not realize how much money I have in that gown."
In his studio, Dr. Phil asks Angela, "You spent $5,500 on a pageant gown?"
"Yes, I'm guilty, and now I'm probably going to hear about it all the way home," Angela says sheepishly.
"Not at that level, no," he says.
"And that's just for the kids," Dr. Phil says sarcastically to Angela.
"If you want the crown, you've got to look good. You've got to have the right outfit," she says.
"You've already got the crown," Dr. Phil points out.
"I know, but I want another crown," Angela says.
"Ask her what she's done with all her old crowns," Bruce says to Dr. Phil, and Dr. Phil repeats the question to Angela.
"I give them away," she says.
Dr. Phil asks Angela to stop the pageant-speak and talk with him honestly. "This kind of gets in your blood, and you like the spotlight and the stage, right?" he asks.
"I hate to use the word obsession, but I do enjoy it," she says. "It's a girls' weekend."
"You're already signed up for another one, right?" Dr. Phil asks Angela.
"We weren't supposed to go there," she says with an uncomfortable laugh.
"How does this pageant pursuit end?" Dr. Phil asks.
"We need to come to a compromise, and I know I have to work on the budget end of it," she says.
"You say that you spend $10,000 per pageant," Dr. Phil says.
Angela is surprised to hear that number, because she thought it was a few thousand less.
"Why do you want to see this end?" Dr. Phil asks Bruce.
"The challenge is that she needs pageantry to promote her charity. I personally don't believe that," he says. "She's made inroads, she has connections now, and the pageantry thing is really not helping her in that regard."
"You now have credibility, right?" Dr. Phil asks Angela.
"I believe so," she says.
"That is a very legitimate part of this, and I acknowledge that fully," Dr. Phil says. "I just wanted you to acknowledge that there's balance and obsession, and when it tips from balance into obsession, it's time to say, â€˜Hey, wait a minute. I'm not going to continue to pay people to tell me I look nice.'"