"Captive for 18 Years," "Hell Hole," "My Son the Killer." These are just some of the headlines from a story that has captivated the nation. It's the miraculous return of Jaycee Lee Dugard after being abducted nearly two decades ago. Convicted sex offender Phillip Garrido allegedly kidnapped 11-year-old Jaycee 18 years ago at a bus stop and held her captive in a series of sheds and tents in his backyard, one of which was reportedly soundproof. Jaycee, now 29, has two daughters, ages 15 and 11, who were allegedly fathered by Garrido. Police say none of the women have ever seen a doctor or much of the outside world, until recently.
Garrido and his wife, Nancy, face 29 felony counts for kidnapping Jaycee Dugard for sexual purposes.
"What kind of person does this sort of thing?" Dr. Phil asks his guests.
Former FBI profiler and hostage negotiator Clint Van Zandt says, "First, you've got somebody who has no sense of anybody else's pain. You've got to realize, this is a guy who, years ago, kidnapped, sexually assaulted and kept a woman in a prison somewhat similar to the same setup that he had in his backyard â€¦ So, these types of people don't change."
Dr. Thema Bryant-Davis is the Associate Professor of Psychology and Director of the Culture and Trauma Research Lab at Pepperdine University. She says she is not surprised about the neighbors' reactions. "We keep having this myth of knowing what a rapist looks like or knowing what a serial killer looks like. But one of the things we should be mindful of is people who are sociopaths or have antisocial personality disorder, these are very charming people, and so people can be charismatic," she says. "We have to start looking at what's underneath of what people are presenting."
"There's an element of narcissism here too," Dr. Phil says. He shares some narcissistic sociopathic personality traits.
Narcissistic Sociopathic Personality Traits:
- Take advantage of other people/cons
- Grandiose/exaggerated feelings of self-importance, achievement and talents
- Preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence
- Huge sense of entitlement/callous
- Requires constant attention and admiration
- Lacks empathy/remorse/guilt
- Has obsessive self-interest
- Pathological liar
- Need for stimulation
- Impulsive/conflict with authority
[AD]Clint explains, "A guy like this, he thinks he's the sun, and we're the planets, and we just circle around him for his own purpose."
Phillip Garrido was convicted in 1976 of raping a woman. He was sentenced to 50 years but was released after 11. Dr. Phil explains that at his trial, he was quoted as saying he had fantasies about 7- to 10-year-old little girls, and that he often masturbated in his car near schools. "He gets 50 years in prison, and with this history, and with the knowledge that these people don't have a good prognosis, they turn him out after serving 20 percent of his time. What in the world is going on that we put this guy back on the street?" Dr. Phil asks.
Dr. Bryant-Davis explains that there isn't much rehab in prison. Plus, she says, "They're very resistant to change because people with personality disorders aren't motivated to change."
[AD]Dr. Phil makes it clear that mental health professionals know that these kinds of people don't tend to get better with treatment. "Here's a guy who's being warehoused in prison. There is not one thing anybody can point to to say that this guy was rehabilitated, that this guy had the intensive reconstruction of personality traits, characteristics, values and viewpoints that suggested that he would be any less of a threat when he was let out than he was when he was in jail," he says.
Clint adds, "Seventy percent of the people in California who are in prison, who get released, reoffend again. There are 675,000 registered sex offenders in America. There are only 685,000 cops! How do we keep track of this? And to turn this guy looseâ€¦ "
Could you have a neighbor like Garrido? To find out, go to www.familywatchdog.us and type in your address. It will show you a map of registered sex offenders in your area, and what their offenses were.
[AD]A map of Garrito's neighborhood is shown, with multiple offenders nearby. When you click on his house, it shows his photo and his offenses: violence and rape. You can also see a list of every offender within one mile of his house.