Sitting in the guest seat on Dr. Phil isn't so easy for Larry King. "The hardest thing I have about being interviewed is the desire I have to ask the questions," he says.
But even Larry King, who's married for his fifth time and is now the father of 2- and 3-year-old boys ("without Viagra!"), can use a dose of Dr. Phil's advice.
Dr. Phil: Have you ever been intimidated by anybody that you had sitting in the chair?
Larry King: Only once. It lasted for 10 seconds, and it's because it was Frank Sinatra, and he didn't do interviews. It was my radio show.
Dr. Phil: What went through your mind when you made the decision to have children at 65 years of age?
Dr. Phil: What's it like to live with you? How would Shawn answer that question? What do you guys fight about? What do you talk about?
Larry King: We don't fight except about one thing
Dr. Phil: What do you do when you get angry?
Larry King: Sometimes I get frustrated and I let it out. I'll get angry for like two minutes. It never lasts long, and I never hold a grudge. I will not say the next day, 'I'm still mad at you.' I'm angry for five minutes. And sometimes it will lead into where I better walk out of the room.
Dr. Phil: What makes you angry?
Larry King: Lateness. And sometimes incompetence.
Dr. Phil: If you were going to write in, saying 'Dr. Phil, I want to talk to you about something I need to straighten out in my life,' what would it be?
Larry King: How can I best deal with my promptness and lateness around me? How can I best deal when emotions flair? Because they don't last long, basically I'm even keeled, and most of the time I try to be funny, and I think I'm loving, but how do I deal with those upsetting times?
Dr. Phil's Advice:
You may not have thought about it this way, but when you're angry, that's the time in your life that you're playing the victim the most. Obviously you're offended because you've been transgressed against, you've been hurt, you've been attacked in some way. Do you feel like a victim when you're angry? ... You understand of course, when you're angry, that's also the time that you are the absolute weakest in your life. Because you've taken on the victim role.
Dr. Phil: If somebody said there's no more television after tomorrow, who would you want on your last show?
Larry King: You'd be right up there, but I've done you before, so it'd be someone I hadn't done, and it would be this pope. He's a playwright, a poet, raised among Jews, is Polish living in Rome, has been shot, kissed the person who shot him, traveled more than any other pope in history, very, very conservative in areas of the church, very very liberal in areas of social politics ... speaks five languages, my God.