Jordan Reichenberger, an Austin based minister and street preacher, claims he experienced sleep deprivation while briefly living at the Church of Wells compound in late 2016.

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“Even after I had mentioned that typically I’m not, like, a crack of dawn kind of person, they woke me up at the crack of dawn the next day,” says Jordan.

“If you can keep somebody awake long enough and you can control their sleep, whether they can sleep or whether they can’t, you can take anyone to the edge of sanity and beyond,” says Dr. Phil in the conclusion of this two-part exclusive airing Monday.

What else does he say about allegations made against the Church of Wells?

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