Debra Newell was the second wife of the notorious con man and serial abuser, “Dirty John” Meehan, who died in 2016 after Debra’s youngest daughter, Terra, stabbed him in self-defense. Along with books and podcasts, Debra’s relationship with John was the focus of the 2018 true-crime TV miniseries, “Dirty John.”

Debra shared the story of her marriage to Meehan with Dr. Phil in early 2019, saying, “I found out that he had spent time in prison and he had a drug problem. I was 100% deceived.”

Today, she joins “Dirty John’s” first wife, Tonia Bales, on the Dr. Phil stage, where Tonia explains that they share an unusual bond.

“I do call her on the anniversary of his death every year just as a way to support her,” says Tonia in the video above. “Just because he died doesn’t mean that it’s not still affecting us in very serious ways."

This episode of Dr. Phil, “The Untold Story of ‘Dirty John’ Meehan’s First Wife,” airs Tuesday. Check your local listing to find out where to watch.

WATCH: ‘I Just Hope That I Have Taught Them That This Is Not Their Shame,’ Says Mother Of ‘Dirty John’s’ Children

Tonia Bales shares details from her 10-year marriage to “Dirty John” in her new podcast, “The First Wife: John Meehan’s Reign of Terror,” available on Audible. Debra Newell’s book, “Surviving Dirty John: My True Story of Love, Lies and Murder,” is available wherever books are sold.

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