Sandy and Ava claim their biological father, Frankie, not only knew that their biological mother Karen ‘sold’ several of the then couple’s children to adoptive parents, they claim he may have masterminded the alleged adoption scam.

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“I believe they both wanted money, and I just want him to admit that,” says Ava, who was raised by Frankie and his second wife.

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Frankie categorically denies the allegation. He claims his ex-wife acted alone, without his knowledge. “When she was picked up by the FBI, that’s when I realized what was going on,” he claims in the video above.

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In part one of a two-part Dr. Phil airing Thursday, Sandy, 33, and Frankie meet for the first time since she was an infant.

Addressing Frankie, Sandy says, “If you and Karen did come up with this to get money, you’re going to help us by telling us the truth.”

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