Michelle and her ex-husband, Kyle, say when their daughter Aubrey was born intersex, with ambiguous genitalia and chromosomes indicating that she was 70 percent more male than female, they consulted with doctors and agreed to raise her as a girl, which they did for the first three years of her life.
Recently, Michelle claims Aubrey, now 4, has been insisting that she’s a boy, so she changed Aubrey’s “girl” toys, clothes and hairstyle to appease her child’s wishes.
“There is no doubt in my mind that Aubrey is a little boy,” says Michelle, who took Aubrey to have her ponytails traded for a buzz cut, she says, after Aubrey’s plea to do so.
Kyle says he was furious when he saw that Michelle cut Aubrey’s long hair without consulting him.
“Michelle needs to take a look at that birth certificate and see that Aubrey is female. She shouldn’t be trying to change that,” Kyle says.
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Because the exes are at odds over Aubrey’s gender identity, Aubrey has been living as a boy with his mom during the week, and as a girl with her dad on the weekends.
In the video above, Dr. Phil plays home video of conversations between Michelle and Aubrey that Michelle says are evidence that Aubrey wants to be a boy.
In one of the conversations, this exchange can be heard between Michelle and Aubrey:
“What are you right now?”
“Do you want to me a girl?”
“What do you want to be?”
“You want to be a boy? You’ve got to tell your daddy you want to be a boy.”
Dr. Phil asks Michelle, “What do you think about that?”
“I think it’s just my proof for Kyle that Aubrey wants to be a boy,” Michelle says. “He sends Aubrey home in those girl clothes, and it’s heartbreaking to see Aubrey like that.”
“It’s heartbreaking to me that you’re interrogating and hot boxing a 4-year-old,” Dr. Phil tells Michelle. “You’re asking questions to serve your agenda. Because you have a belief that that child wants to be a boy, just like [Kyle has] a belief that child wants to be a girl.”
On Friday’s episode, Dr. Phil tells the parents what he believes they must do to help their child thrive. Watch more here.