Michelle, 47, says she started having babies at 18. Now she and her husband, Rod, are expecting their 13th child in 29 years of marriage and Michelle says there is a “very likely chance” that the baby will be born with Down Syndrome.

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Several of the couple’s older children say that growing up in a large family has left them feeling neglected by their parents.

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Michelle, who runs the household and homeschools the younger children says, “It makes me nervous. Am I going to be able to keep up with the needs of a special child?”

“You need some help,” Dr. Phil tells the couple in the video above.

Continuing, he asks, “Are you willing to make some dramatic changes in the way your family pattern is going?”

“Absolutely,” responds Michelle.

“Yes,” adds Rod.

But when life coach, member of the Dr. Phil Advisory Board and author of the upcoming book, “Best Self: Be You, Only Better,” Mike Bayer (Coach Mike) says, “I think the first step is to get rid of homeschooling and to have your kids go to public school,” what is Michelle’s response?

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Mike Bayer is a life development coach and member of the Dr. Phil Advisory Board. His upcoming book, “Best Self: Be You, Only Better,” goes on sale January 8, 2019, wherever books are sold. Read an excerpt here, then check here to find out how you can pre-order.

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