Ava claims her persona as a “hot girl” on Instagram has been interfering with her personal relationships. She has upward of 40,000 followers but says she’s been losing real-life friends while trying to increase her online audience.

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Christian has upward of 199,000 followers on Instagram and is a YouTube vlogger but says he feels like he’s constructed his “own personal hell,” because he’s a trend-follower who doesn’t know who he is and is losing followers because he’s constantly switching personalities.

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On Thursday’s Dr. Phil, Ava and Christian hear from Amanda Cerny. She’s a social media celebrity, marketing professional and bonafide influencer with nearly 25 million followers on Instagram and millions more on Twitter and YouTube, who is simultaneously pursuing an acting career in traditional media.

“If people unfollow me, it doesn’t hurt me in any way,” she tells Ava and Christian in the video above. She says losing followers doesn’t affect her happiness, because she maintains real-life relationships with people she cares about, and who care about her.

“That’s what true happiness is: Your real life outside of social media,” she says.

When Amanda offers Ava and Christian advice on finding balance in their personal lives while improving their social media brands, are they ready to hear what she has to say?

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