For couples who may be struggling, sometimes divorce becomes a reality.

But Dr. Phil cautions that divorce shouldn’t be an option if couples “haven’t done the work” to fix their relationship.

“The time to get a divorce is when you can look at each other, and yourself in the mirror, and say, ‘OK, there is no stone left unturned. I can honestly look myself in the mirror and say I have done everything I know how to do. I have no unfinished emotional business. I’m not angry. I’m not bitter. I’m not hurt. I am at peace with the decision to end this relationship,’” Dr. Phil explains.

Watch the video above as Dr. Phil talks with Julie and Paul, who say they are constantly fighting after five years of marriage. Does Dr. Phil think they are at a point where they should consider a divorce?