Ceanne says her mother, Jemma, has been abusive to her and her sister their entire lives. The 30-year-old claims that at 12, her mom spanked her with a wooden spoon until the spoon snapped in half, an accusation Jemma vehemently denies, and a few years later when she was trying to defend her younger sister in a fight with their mom, Jemma physically attacked her and neighbors had to call the police. She claims that even now, her mother continues to physically and verbally abuse her – and that her mother’s abuse caused her to become an alcoholic.

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“My mother is crazy. She is abusive and in denial at the same time,” says Ceanne, who hasn’t seen her mother in months.

However, Jemma says her daughter is lying.

“I have never abused my children, and if I did, I would remember that,” she says, claiming that her daughters use her as a scapegoat for their own issues, including Ceanne’s alcoholism.

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In the video above, Ceanne confronts her mother about “denying abuse”. How does Jemma respond? And, see what prompts Dr. Phil to say, “Somebody’s lying here.”

Are Ceanne and her sister exaggerating the alleged abuse? Will Jemma acknowledge her daughters and apologize? This episode of Dr. Phil airs Thursday.. Check here to see where you can watch.

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